All-in play

[gsimmons]

i reread DoylesRoom book ofr the 3rd time and if you do read it, he does state that "ive been called lucky, but i always leave enough outs". so i changed ny game again and ive been hearing that im the luckiest person or stupidist poker player. so what seems like a river chasser sometimes isnt neccessary the case.

[DIRTYBAST]

Good this makes it better for real players who come to play not wreck the game for every one else.    

[GrandmaSugar]

I like this play,  If i think i have the better hand i wont hesitate to move my chips all in.  sure i have been busted by the guy with 72os, but  more times then not i get theese players with patience and decent cards so i welcome them in the  big open freerolls.  Forum games  i rarely run nto this  much better players and  a more enjoyable  game

[DomEast]

Hi All.

The Strategy I use with these All-inners is that should they get lucky a couple of hands, they generally just become unstuck as they are very poor poker players. Mark their names and be patient and whene the time is right just take their chips of them.

Lets face it have you ever seen one of these idiots at the final table? unless they did get lucky twice and just sat ou, but they are generally not that clever.

Take care all,

Dom

[5thStBully]

This is simply awesome.  Kudos to FRT for having the "guts" to stand up to poor play!

[ruzzy1]

i also applaud the policy. the quality at alot of the freerolls is pathetic, at least for the 1st hour. the worst part about some of the allinners  is when they do catch that first allin hand they either keep going all in till they take half the tables chips  or  are at least very dangerous  with a big chip stack for the rest of the tourney thanks to stupid plays.

[redsmith]

Got to be honest; I thought this thread was tongue-in-cheek, until I realised you are in fact dead serious.

I'm not an all-in-hooligan myself, so the idea doesn't pose any great threat to me but I always think that trying to artificially tweak the rules of any game is not a step that should be taken lightly.

What you're effectively saying is that all those poker authors who maintain that there is a way around the menace of maniacs, are wrong, are you not?

Getting mega-tight when your table is mega-loose and vice-versa; is that stuff just baloney then?

They hurt me too but I just dust myself down, pick myself up and wait to get them next time.

What next? Anyone completing a runner-runner flush only gets half the pot?

I sense one or two bruised egos in this thread...  :wink:

[Bucnright]

If you read every post this is not about making a bluff chaseing with outs. It is the all-in idiots that play at the start of a tourney all-in every hand. Its not a style of play for poker if they would sign up for the buy-ins and play with that style then I would say it is.

It is a known fact certain players in the forum freerolls sign up for all the freerolls the can find. Then the go all-in the first 20 hands trying to build a stack sitout and move on to the next tourney. That is why on IPoker (Cd, Titan, BetFred, Kiwi) you see so many sitous since they can't play on two sites at one time.

This rule here has been used to remove 5 players so far. Some don't get reported which is the players at the tables choice to report or not. The members that did it were watched by me in 5 tournaments it was they way they played all-in at the start first 20 hands. I emailed them all and they continued the style of play. These members never once played a buy-in event meaning 1 of 2 things they are broke or they are kids just having fun as we say.

When a member really wants to challenge this rule play that way in the freeroll and bring the same game play to our buy-ins. Then I will let him or her stay a member.

The books you are talking about do suggest different ways of playing these types of players. The authers are not wrong at other forums you can play these types all you want or in the open freerolls.

Most forum members want to improve thier game these types of players don't, so my forum has a rule against it. I will gladly email any member a list of forums that don't care about improving thier members games and only care about numbers of downloads. I would rather have good poker players download from me because they in the long run will make more money for me.  Which in turn I put back into my sites.

[t1tpfdc]

You have a semi-valid point there, red ...

However, those authors you mention are writing about people who play poker. They wouldn't get out of bed for the money we play for!

I would say that, though we try to make a little money while playing, virtually all of us are here to relax and enjoy ourselves. And the play shown by a very small number of sillyass braindead limpdick twits is ruining the playing experience for the vast majority. We do not find it relaxing nor enjoyable!

So who  should suffer the punishment ... the vast majority who want to play poker and enjoy themselves, or the chip-wielding vandals whose sole intention seems to be to destroy?

t1tpfdc

[HeyJC]

I am also not an all-inner and I have lost premium starting hands to these donks.  I also don't believe that style of play will win in the long run, in other words, make it to the money.  Yes, some of these people get lucky and take out much better starting hands than what they went all-in with but I believe this is also part of the game.  I believe there is a strategy to combat this type of play and it usually prevails.  I dont remember seeing these players making it to the money and I definately have not seen this type of play, continuous all-ins, toward the end of tournaments.  On the other hand, if a player is going all in for 20 hands and then sitting out to try and make the money and you could identify this player, then that should not be allowed but I doubt 20 hands could really win played consecutively.  I know it's a bother but I believe good players will take out an all-in player like this before he gets too far.

[betty6263]

They eventuallly do get taken out.  Alliners will get taken out before a sitout will.  Don't think I have ever seen an alliner make it to the money, but I have seen sitouts make it to the money.  They usually make me just want to fold every hand til they are taken out or one of us gets moved to another table.  If I have AA then I'd take a chance at it, usually someone will get a good enough hand to call an alliner and take them out.  It makes the game boring to me when you have an alliner at the table like that.  There's no competition in it.  Maybe they don't have enough confidence in thier own game play and that's why they play allin like that.  I don't know for sure why they do, but I think it is very, very bad stradegy.  I don't play that way and I place in the money often.  

Well, best of luck to the alliners reading this, you're going to need it.  :wink:
Please take no offense, I mean nothing personally.
I just feel allin all the time is bad play.
I believe patience is good play.
 
My opinion!
Betty  

[NeoAngin]

I fell out a minute ago because a st**** wh*** went all in with suited waiting for a flush.

[nut]

sometime they do it to jump ahead of crowd early and take control of game, then coast along and do it again with super hand. cant blame them but  u got to rethink how to kick their face in.

[billm557]

My strategy is to sit back and relax and when you get AA or KK make the call and take them out.

[mawsrat]

I'm glad this forum except's this allin rule and specially inforces the rule.Glad to be here. Still learning my way.