Freerolltourny
POKER => ALL-INNERS => Topic started by: Bucnright on December 20, 2005, 10:18:23 PM
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We are here to help improve you game. This site will do its best to remove all-inners. Repeated all-ins with bad hands will not be tolerated. If you wish to play that style in our freerolls you will be removed from this forum.
If you notice a player with this style of play post the username here. After three posts by different members the player will be watched by a moderator of the forum. If the moderator determines the player is violating our forum policy the player will be removed.
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I salute you is taking this step. The allin play has a place and a time, but going all in with junk just because it is a freeroll ruins the game.
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Crap, I better change my stratgey now :wink: .
Spit ..
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Alright for you. About time someone did something about the people who go all in most of the time. If you want to play bingo go play bingo. There is a time and place to call allin. Most of us here love the game of poker and want to play without idots doing this 90% of the time. Don't get me wrong I will call all in at times but usually not preflop even with pocket K's or A's just because a 2 4 offsuit can and will flop a str8.
Roadawg
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Yeah!!! I agree there is a place and a time for all in.
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I will most likely never post here but I like the idea. I will seldom play games that aren't forum games anymore just because of the all-in freaks. Love this thread, though. :lol:
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I hate people that go all in almost every hand. And end up winning with crap. :evil:
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Thank Goodness I finally found a forum that does not tolerate this behavior. I play in other leagues too and this behavior is so annoying when you are really trying to get something from the game and these "all inner" people ruin the game for the other 90% of us. Let's say preflop bet is 3x to 5x the BB, isn't that sufficient enough for a top 10 starting hand. It is one thing if two people are are going heads up both thinking they both have the best hand preflop but when 3 or more players do it on the first hand it seems a little ridicolous unless the showdown is AA vs KK vs QQ vs JJ vs AK suited. If a player shows up for a game and they know they can play the whole tourney for whatever reason, should'nt it be something where they have to find the site adminstrator on the other table or contacting him via P< or something, and tell him why they can not play. Another issue is the SITOUT people who have already aquired a pretty good chip stack before the money cut.
P.S. Thank you again for addressing this issue, it makes it a better place to play.
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oh well spit,there goes our easy money!!
and by the way what is an IDOT?? 8O
Randy (The Rippster)
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I agree that all-in abusers should be noted, but I doubt that they would stay in our type of tournament for long anyway. Has there been a lot going on (I have missed a couple of tourneys lately)? I see a little, but usually it is someone trying to build a quick stack, and I am not sure that they should be banned unless it is truely a problem and not legitimate stradegy.
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I like your new ideas for the league Buc/Don BTW!! But if play is like what i saw to-night i will sit out the 1st 20 minutes. After 20 minutes the field was cut in 1/2 and i was on my way out. A player from the 3rd chair goes ALL-IN with queen-ten off-suit with a stack of 1,200 chips roughly. I mean HOW many good hands do you have to/are you willing to lay down because of this idiotic kind of play ??? I had 1,400 in chips with an Ace-King next to the blinds. I called he outdrew me catching a ten basically crippling me.It,s getting ridiculous !! I,d report it but it was another new name,i don,t remember. I hope players like this cannot play in a league format. !!!
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Don't despair chan! I played you the other night and you are a solid player IMHO. Even in these private tourneys there are a few players that do this, trying to get a big stack early. Just make an adjustment to your play for the first 30 mins or so and you should do ok. These private tourneys are usually not as wild as the regualr freerolls, but you still get some all-inners, and this forum will hopefulle help in that respect.
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I think that all forums are going to start this now ive seen a few already and just posted mine as well hopefully together we can get rid og some of them
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WOW, as soon as I say I probably won't see any because I only play forum games....I see 2 in 2 days. :lol:
1st one I posted on Don's site, the second one's username was DEALMEIN25. He needs help with his table manners. :P
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this seems like a good idea in theory but i think it will be hard to police. after all what really is a crap hand, and what if its a shorthanded round your large blind you have mid suited, low pair, short stacked etc. etc. how can it be judged :D :D :D
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Ok let me try to clear this up. This is my forum and I started it to improve the average poker players game.
I am not talking about trying to steal some blinds, being short stcked and trying to catch. You all have seen at the start of a tourney one player raise the blinds 20 times the big blind. The second player pushes allin and the first calls turns AA and the allin players shows 28 and catches a Str8 8 high. Next 5 hands he pushes allin preflop and catches cards with rags.
If you like that style of play this forum is not for you there are many other forums you can join which just want to make money off of you. I would rather help players improve their game. I don't need the money.
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I agree that this forum tends to attract the better players, and I have not seen any real out of control play in the last couple of tourneys that I have been in.
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understand you now. that beginning of the game stuff does really pee me off. i have folded good cards just in case they really had something just to see them flip over junk. i didnt see that happening in last nights tho so maybe players wont do it. good luck at the tables all
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I am not talking about trying to steal some blinds, being short stcked and trying to catch. You all have seen at the start of a tourney one player raise the blinds 20 times the big blind. The second player pushes allin and the first calls turns AA and the allin players shows 28 and catches a Str8 8 high. Next 5 hands he pushes allin preflop and catches cards with rags.
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What has always amazed me is the fact that the idiots usually catch the miracle hands when they do that. That, more than anything, pisses me off. Rewarding a butthead for stupid play. :::sigh::::
Thankfully, most players here are here to play and play poker like a poker player and not like said buttheads. ;)
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hi all glad to hear and see a forum do something about the players who don't care about playing good poker and not bingo lol. well i hope it helps the players who do care and know somewhat about poker. i also play at another forum and was in a toury the other day and the host was being a bully by either going all in or raiseing all your chips preflop and got mad at me for calling 800 chips with A 4 sutied and beat him with aces he had crap lol. i am just glad you are tring to help. good luck all and have fun.
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I had to remove one last night for doing it and when he was warned he used fowl lang.
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2much, I have played you enough times to know that you use the all-in as a strategy, that's fine.
No one cares if you use it like that, the ones Buc and don are trying to get rid of are the ones that go in EVERY HAND whether they have a hand or just junk cards. It makes the game a joke and no one wants that.
We all know you don't do that, or at least I have never seen you do it.
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Yes,
Finally a group that wants to get rid of the Lottery Poker Players.
Play the game and Quit with AllIn, Guess what?
thats not how to play POKER
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it is getting very bad out there, wait for good cards and then get beat by 4-9 off suit ,just wrong wrong wrong :evil: :evil: :evil:
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I don't like the habitual all-ins at FR starts. It shows the quality of play from the individuals employing a "strategy" - reckless, loose, tight, rock, aggressive, etc.. HOWEVER, players need to adjust/adapt to the quality of play at their table. I make special note of all-inners (and to a cetain extent to habitual "big raisers" - 10X+ BB) and wait to play a QUALITY HAND vs. them. Short-term I might lose to an all-inner, but long term I'll be kickin arse and takin names. I get a kick outta taking one of these weaker, overly aggressive, lower quality hand playin' players out. LONG TERM it's easy chips, but we all have to put up with short term, bad beats.
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It's rare but I have seen some all ins early who were just "ultra" loose aggressive players. Granted these players are an extremely small percentage of the all in mentality at the beginning of freerolls. I watched a player chat converstion at CD last month where 2 players bragged about how many all ins they had going and where they hit at. These players then just play the tables where they got lucky. I like the policy you are trying to implement, but unless anyone calls, how do we know they had marginal hands? I will just make sure ( as much as I can) that I'm not reporting anyone falsely. I may even just take notes on someone the first time I see that happen and then see if they pull a repeat performance.
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First a player needs to get 3 complaints. After the secong I will email them and let them know of the policy we have just incase the didn't read this. The players will get called at some point had maybe be lucky or not. IAny player at the table could report him/her if they want. The 3rd report I or one of the other mods here will watch them. If it comes down to it at most sites i can get a complete history of every players hands at the tables, its the same way sites look into collusion.
This policy is just for our freerolls if a player wants to bring that style of play into any of our buy-ins we will accept his donation.
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hi everyone :D
I think all ins is fine as long as you have a high pair and that means a pair of Jacks to Aces but i have seen players that have all ins with a 2 and 3!... come on..... thats no pair. lol
and also because these high pairs only comes once in a wile so why not make the most of it. lol
some times i go all in but only if i have a high pair!
thats what i think! :D 8O
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'note to me' never call JEAN2002's all ins unless I have AA.
Spit/Andy ..
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I love this. I play several "regular" freerolls a day, and without fail, I'll have pp A's, K's or Q's, typical play I'll min raise b4 flop and someone always re-raises. In this situation I will go all in (you don't want to be out drawn), but as I said WITHOUT FAIL said someone has 5 8 off or 4 7 off and catches usually a straight if not 2 pair :evil: . Its an Absolute (http://affiliates.ultimatebet.com/banners/redirect.php?id=218&cmpgn_id=12627&prdct_id=1&cat_cd=AP) joke. I'm not one to stick around and complain, but how can you go all in with a hand like that (and why oh why do they always catch? :twisted: ). That being said, same person will make same play over and over again, and if that person loses, he/she stays for 5-10 mins complaning about it :lol: . What happened to loving the game and playing to the best of your ability.
Great rule, and that is also why I've joined the forum, to try and get away from morons like that. Thank you, and GL. You guys are doing a great job. :D
cya at the tables
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i reread DoylesRoom (http://www.doylesroom.com?refid=bucnright) book ofr the 3rd time and if you do read it, he does state that "ive been called lucky, but i always leave enough outs". so i changed ny game again and ive been hearing that im the luckiest person or stupidist poker player. so what seems like a river chasser sometimes isnt neccessary the case.
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Good this makes it better for real players who come to play not wreck the game for every one else. 8) 8)
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I like this play, If i think i have the better hand i wont hesitate to move my chips all in. sure i have been busted by the guy with 72os, but more times then not i get theese players with patience and decent cards so i welcome them in the big open freerolls. Forum games i rarely run nto this much better players and a more enjoyable game
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Hi All.
The Strategy I use with these All-inners is that should they get lucky a couple of hands, they generally just become unstuck as they are very poor poker players. Mark their names and be patient and whene the time is right just take their chips of them.
Lets face it have you ever seen one of these idiots at the final table? unless they did get lucky twice and just sat ou, but they are generally not that clever.
Take care all,
Dom
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This is simply awesome. Kudos to FRT for having the "guts" to stand up to poor play!
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i also applaud the policy. the quality at alot of the freerolls is pathetic, at least for the 1st hour. the worst part about some of the allinners is when they do catch that first allin hand they either keep going all in till they take half the tables chips or are at least very dangerous with a big chip stack for the rest of the tourney thanks to stupid plays.
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Got to be honest; I thought this thread was tongue-in-cheek, until I realised you are in fact dead serious.
I'm not an all-in-hooligan myself, so the idea doesn't pose any great threat to me but I always think that trying to artificially tweak the rules of any game is not a step that should be taken lightly.
What you're effectively saying is that all those poker authors who maintain that there is a way around the menace of maniacs, are wrong, are you not?
Getting mega-tight when your table is mega-loose and vice-versa; is that stuff just baloney then?
They hurt me too but I just dust myself down, pick myself up and wait to get them next time.
What next? Anyone completing a runner-runner flush only gets half the pot?
I sense one or two bruised egos in this thread... :wink:
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If you read every post this is not about making a bluff chaseing with outs. It is the all-in idiots that play at the start of a tourney all-in every hand. Its not a style of play for poker if they would sign up for the buy-ins and play with that style then I would say it is.
It is a known fact certain players in the forum freerolls sign up for all the freerolls the can find. Then the go all-in the first 20 hands trying to build a stack sitout and move on to the next tourney. That is why on IPoker (Cd, Titan (http://banner.titanpoker.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?id=N&member=bucnright&profile=maintp), BetFred (http://banner.betfred.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?id=N&member=bucnright&profile=poker), Kiwi) you see so many sitous since they can't play on two sites at one time.
This rule here has been used to remove 5 players so far. Some don't get reported which is the players at the tables choice to report or not. The members that did it were watched by me in 5 tournaments it was they way they played all-in at the start first 20 hands. I emailed them all and they continued the style of play. These members never once played a buy-in event meaning 1 of 2 things they are broke or they are kids just having fun as we say.
When a member really wants to challenge this rule play that way in the freeroll and bring the same game play to our buy-ins. Then I will let him or her stay a member.
The books you are talking about do suggest different ways of playing these types of players. The authers are not wrong at other forums you can play these types all you want or in the open freerolls.
Most forum members want to improve thier game these types of players don't, so my forum has a rule against it. I will gladly email any member a list of forums that don't care about improving thier members games and only care about numbers of downloads. I would rather have good poker players download from me because they in the long run will make more money for me. Which in turn I put back into my sites.
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You have a semi-valid point there, red ...
However, those authors you mention are writing about people who play poker. They wouldn't get out of bed for the money we play for!
I would say that, though we try to make a little money while playing, virtually all of us are here to relax and enjoy ourselves. And the play shown by a very small number of sillyass braindead limpdick twits is ruining the playing experience for the vast majority. We do not find it relaxing nor enjoyable!
So who should suffer the punishment ... the vast majority who want to play poker and enjoy themselves, or the chip-wielding vandals whose sole intention seems to be to destroy?
t1tpfdc
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I am also not an all-inner and I have lost premium starting hands to these donks. I also don't believe that style of play will win in the long run, in other words, make it to the money. Yes, some of these people get lucky and take out much better starting hands than what they went all-in with but I believe this is also part of the game. I believe there is a strategy to combat this type of play and it usually prevails. I dont remember seeing these players making it to the money and I definately have not seen this type of play, continuous all-ins, toward the end of tournaments. On the other hand, if a player is going all in for 20 hands and then sitting out to try and make the money and you could identify this player, then that should not be allowed but I doubt 20 hands could really win played consecutively. I know it's a bother but I believe good players will take out an all-in player like this before he gets too far.
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They eventuallly do get taken out. Alliners will get taken out before a sitout will. Don't think I have ever seen an alliner make it to the money, but I have seen sitouts make it to the money. They usually make me just want to fold every hand til they are taken out or one of us gets moved to another table. If I have AA then I'd take a chance at it, usually someone will get a good enough hand to call an alliner and take them out. It makes the game boring to me when you have an alliner at the table like that. There's no competition in it. Maybe they don't have enough confidence in thier own game play and that's why they play allin like that. I don't know for sure why they do, but I think it is very, very bad stradegy. I don't play that way and I place in the money often.
Well, best of luck to the alliners reading this, you're going to need it. :wink:
Please take no offense, I mean nothing personally.
I just feel allin all the time is bad play.
I believe patience is good play.
My opinion!
Betty 8)
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I fell out a minute ago because a st**** wh*** went all in with suited waiting for a flush.
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sometime they do it to jump ahead of crowd early and take control of game, then coast along and do it again with super hand. cant blame them but u got to rethink how to kick their face in.
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My strategy is to sit back and relax and when you get AA or KK make the call and take them out.
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I'm glad this forum except's this allin rule and specially inforces the rule.Glad to be here. Still learning my way.
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This is the first time I have ever I mean ever seen a forum do this . I completely agree . I cant stand losing aa to 23. Thisis alot at pitbull every hand you have an all-in player and its getting toi the point that I'm thinking PitBull is making sure it happens that way . SO CONGRATS ON THIS STEP FORWARD
theguzette
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I have an all in or fold strategy I use on :roll: :roll: very loose freerolls on Bodog (http://www.bodog.com/welcome/1169938/betting-offers/wsop-main-event-satellite.html) and PokerStars (http://www.pokerstars.eu/?source=freerolltourny.com) (5000 to 10000) players. I go all in with AA or KK and fold everything else except unraised to SB and checks on the BB. After 100/200 I go back to regular play. I hope that I would not be banned if I used this strategy.
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Nope not for that. It is for the ones that go all-in with crappy cards everyhand at the begining of a freeroll. AA KK are not crappy but they ussally lose to that all-in style player that calls you with his 63 offsuit.
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8O ...LOL,Crazzy,as much as I hate being on a table with you,I like ya,BUT........the truth is YOU are an all-inner yourself!!!! :roll: :mrgreen:
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CrazzyRaise does it on the buy-ins also that is his style.
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WTG Buc, I like the idea, and glad you have the balls to get it done. Just the other day I was playing in the 1st of your 7 FR I believe at (PokerNordica) , and I went allin twice just after a moderate raise, it was just level 2 of the blinds, so it was pretty early in the game, after the 2nd allin, a player at my table, very politely mind you, says "We have a post about guys like you" So I asked, what post? He explained the situation to me and I thanked him, I just wish I could remember who it was. After he saw my hands, he said, "Now I know why you called allin" I had AA and one hand later KK, He says you obviously aren't one of those allin players who play with crap. I'm glad to be a member of this forum, where there are people who actually respect the game and the other players playing it. To the person who was at that game with me I would like to say thank you.
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I am so glad to see that someone is finally doing something about the ones who push all in all the time. I know I have played in plenty of tournaments and I see it at everyone of them. I get so mad I just fold till someone takes them out or I get moved. Sometimes though if I have a strong enough hand and I know that they are pushers of the all in I will call them, most of the time they don't have squat and I end up taking them out. I know now I am going to start taking names and keeping track of the ones who do that when I play. I also think that it could be a bunch of kids playing that shouldn't be. I seen on another forum where they had kids registered under the age of 18 and they talk about playing on different sites. I was under the impression that there was a age limit.
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very good. i play private tables for the simple fact, a lot less bad players lol j/k every1 plays good and thats how i like to play thx and gl 2 all :D
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I do agree with your plan here but also admit that I do the same thing....IF I have a super pocket.....
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i am always accussed of being a donk. i am just here to admit it. (and defend it) no sense trying to change me now. i play the same way whether its a freeroll or buyin. i have a blast playing too. i play for fun-not trying to make a living. be happy when you get my chips. don't be a hater and call me names. :P
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YAH I AM GLAD THAT SUM1 IS DOING SUMTHONG ABOUT THESE BINGO PLAYERS :x
Alright for you. About time someone did something about the people who go all in most of the time. If you want to play bingo go play bingo. There is a time and place to call allin. Most of us here love the game of poker and want to play without idots doing this 90% of the time. Don't get me wrong I will call all in at times but usually not preflop even with pocket K's or A's just because a 2 4 offsuit can and will flop a str8.
Roadawg
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i have to say im glad to see that some forum cares about this and is willing to take action. you play lotto. you go to the store and buy a ticket. you dont do it at the poker table.
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this is the reason that the only freerolls i play are forum freerolls. i find that the quality of play as a whole is very good as compared to site freerolls. just my thoughts
thanks and take care
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Another great rule.Keep them donkeys out.
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i think this is a excellent idea i wish more forums would take this kind of an innitive my hats off I salute you all for what you do :P
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Some times I just love bluffing hard....
But u have to be very carefull
Otherwise they cath u, you messed.
:-X
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Taking out the alliners sucks, big time. It wouldn't be much fun without these players challenging us, regardless what hand they go allin with. Besides, their chips, their call. Who are we to dictate where, when, how and why a player makes a certain call.
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lol i hope you know if they are all in like every hand in the freerolls they probably wont even be real(or contributing members)
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We are here to help improve you game. This site will do its best to remove all-inners. Repeated all-ins with bad hands will not be tolerated. If you wish to play that style in our freerolls you will be removed from this forum.
If you notice a player with this style of play post the username here. After three posts by different members the player will be watched by a moderator of the forum. If the moderator determines the player is violating our forum policy the player will be removed.
yea uhm hey ...i was in the freeroll today and busted out 2nd last by a guy with k6!!!!he got 2pair i had ak he just raised and went all in with ot so i called and lost lol his nik is sickcroat or something the other 1 is nexrum who raises and is all in with most hands !!!!!!!!lucky donks....
ANYWAY THANX FOR THE FREEROLL
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I hate all ins...
Every time I go I loose now...
Iven if I have AA I might be folding..
I cant stand it anymore.
It is driving me nuts.
I promise my self not ever ever go all in..
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I love this concept. More often than not I have been running into this problem in the first 10 minutes of a game in every freeroll I have entered. I have gotten to the point where it is not longer enjoyable.
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Play only good hands early in a tournament, and loosen up as it progresses.